Hey, EU, Lease This - #*&%@!!!
If Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert consults the international community before implementing his "convergence" plan, one suggestion he is likely to hear is that Israel should lease the settlement blocs from the Palestinian Authority rather than annex them outright, a senior European diplomat said Monday...
This concept, the diplomat said, was relatively simple and could be applied to an area like Ma'aleh Adumim. Israel would recognize the area as PA territory and lease the land from the PA, he said. "Israel would admit the land is the Palestinians, and the Palestinians would admit the homes there are Israel's," he said.
* What exactly makes the land that Ma'aleh Adumim sits upon "Palestinian"?
* Was Ma'aleh Adumim or any other place in Israel ever part of an Arab country named Palestine?
* From 1948 - 1967, while Judea, Samaria & eastern Jerusalem were illegally occupied by Jordan, was a "Palestinian State" established?
The answer to all of these questions, of course, is a resounding no.
* According to international law, all land West of the Jordan River can legally be considered as part of the Jewish State of Israel, and should in no way be considered "occupied territory". (For further background: 1, 2, 3 & 4).
It would be unfair, however, to lay all of the blame for this "leasing" proposal at the feet of the EU. In a sense, the leaders of the Jewish State are even more to blame.
Why, you ask?
Even though both historical truth, along with international law, prove beyond a doubt the rights of the Jewish people to a Jewish State throughout the Land of Israel (particularly west of the Jordan River), our leaders remain silent and allow the "occupied territory" canard to grow louder and stronger with every passing day. After all, the nations of the world say, "if the land (Judea & Samaria) really belonged to the Jewish People and State, they would have annexed it following their victory in the Six-Day War".
Instead, our leaders play word games, insisting that areas such as Hebron, Beit El, and Shiloh - of which there can be no questioning the absolute right of the Jewish People to - are neither "occupied" nor "liberated", but "disputed" territory. It is this hesitation to assert our rightful claim to what is historically and legally (and divinely, of course) ours that encourages such insulting proposals from the EU; deadly "peace plans", such as the Oslo Accords; and lastly, emboldens our enemies in their belief that it is only a matter of time before we totally succumb under their relentless attacks.
Moshe Ya'alon, Israel's former Chief of Staff, expressed the consequences of this tragedy best in a recent article by Caroline Glick:
Ya’alon explained what he considers to be the key to Israel’s security.
Israel, he said, has the military capability to defeat its enemies. But for Israel to be able to take the steps it needs to take to win the war being waged for our destruction, Ya’alon explained, first we need to accept the fact that we have an intrinsic, unconditional right to our land and our sovereignty.
Once we understand that our rights are unconditional, we will understand that we have an obligation to wage war against those who work for our destruction. That is, Ya’alon explained, that for Israel to survive, we need to return to our unconditional Zionism.
We are tired of fighting, we are tired of being courageous, we are tired of winning, we are tired of defeating our enemies, we want that we will be able to live in an entirely different environment of relations with our enemies. We want them to be our friends, our partners, our good neighbors, and I believe that this is not impossible.
posted by Ze'ev @ Thursday, April 06, 2006
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10 Comments:
B"H elections are over. Your quality (and correct) insights are back on your blog.
By
JoeSettler, at
Fri Apr 07, 04:05:00 PM GMT+3
WHY DO ISRAELIS HATE HAMAS, THEIR LEADERS HAVE ALWAYS ADVOCATED THE POLICY THAT JEWISH LIVES ARE EXPENDIBLE IF THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS, EVEN IF IT MEANT SUPPORTING THE NAZIS AT ONE TIME, IT WAS ONLY FOR THE GOOD OF ISRAEL!
As far as the Zionist leaders were concerned, the worst enemy was
"assimilation". In this they resembled the Hitlerians as do all racists,
for whom the fundamental preoccupation is purity of blood. This is why the
Hitlerians regarded the Zionists as valid interlocutors who served their
designs, insofar as Hitler's ultimate goal was to rid Germany, and later
Europe, of all Jews.
The founding fathers of Israel, went as far as supporting fascism in order
to establish the State of Israel, even when it came to the death thousands of fellow
Jews, just look at some of their sayings:
Ben Gurion, Israel's first head of State, declared outright to the "Labor"
Zionists on December 7th 1938 :
"If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking
them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz
Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account
not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of
Israel."
Source : Yvon Gelbner, "Zionist policy and the fate of European Jewry", in
Yad Vashem studies (Jerusalem, vol. XII, p. 199).
"The saving of the Jews in Europe did not figure at the head of the list
of priorities of the ruling class. It was the foundation of the State
which was primordial in their eyes."
Source : Tom Segev. "Le septième million" Ed. Liana Levi, Paris, 1993, p. 539
(...) Must we help all those who need it without taking into account the
characteristics of each one? Must we not give this action a national
Zionist character and attempt to give priority to the saving of those who
can be useful to the Land of Israel and to Judaism? I know it may seem
cruel to pose the question in this way, but unfortunately we must
establish clearly that if we are able to save 10,000 people out of the
50,000 people who can contribute to the construction of the land and to
the national rebirth, or else a million Jews who will become a burden for
us or at best a dead weight, we must restrict ourselves to the saving of
the 10,000 who can be saved - despite the accusations and the appeals of
the million left behind."
Source : Memorandum of the "Salvation Committee" of the Jewish Agency.
1943. Quoted by Tom Segev. Op. cit. p.124.
It was this fanaticism which inspired, for instance, the attitude of the
Zionist delegation at the Evian conference of July 1938, where 31 nations
had gathered to discuss the absorption of refugees from Nazi Germany : the
Zionist delegation demanded, as the only possible solution, the admission
of 200,000 Jews to Palestine.
The Jewish state was more important than the lives of Jews.
By
Anonymous, at
Sat Apr 08, 02:46:00 AM GMT+3
ZIONISM'S DIRTY LITTLE SECRET: THEIR UNHOLY ALIANCE WITH NAZI GERMANY:
We have proof of this collusion between Nazis and
Zionists.
In a memorandum of June 21st 1933 to the Nazi party, the "Zionist
Federation of Germany" expressed itself as follows :
"In the foundation of the new State, which has proclaimed the race
principle, we wish to adapt our community to these new structures... Our
recognition of the Jewish nationality allows us to establish clear and
sincere relations with the German people and its national and racial
realities. Precisely because we do not want to underestimate these
fundamental principles, because we too are against mixed marriages and for
the maintaining of the purity of the Jewish group...The Jews who are
conscious of their identity and in whose name we speak, can find a place
within the structure of the German State, for they are free of the
resentment that the assimilated Jews must feel;...we believe in the
possibility of loyal relations between those Jews conscious of their
community and the German State.
To attain its practical objectives, Zionism hopes it will be able to
collaborate with a government that is fundamentally hostile to the
Jews....The realization of Zionism is impeded only by the resentment of
Jews from without against the present German orientation The propaganda in
favor of Zionism currently aimed against Germany is essentially
non-Zionist... "
Source : Lucy Dawidovitch, "A Holocaust reader", p. 155.
The memorandum added that "should the Germans accept the cooperation of
the Zionists, these would try to dissuade Jews abroad from supporting the
anti-German boycott."
Source : Lucy Dawidovitch : "The war against Jews (1933-1945)" Penguin
books. 1977. p.231-232
The Hitlerian leaders were well-disposed towards the Zionists, whose
exclusive aim was to create a state in Palestine, thus favoring their own
designs to get rid of the Jews. Alfred Rosenberg, the chief Nazi
theoretician, wrote :
"Zionism must be vigorously backed so that a yearly contingent of German
Jews shall be transported to Palestine."
Source : A. Rosenberg : "Die Spur des juden im Wandel der Zeiten". Munich
1937. p.153.
Reinhardt Heydrich, who was later to become "Protector" of Czechoslovakia,
wrote in Das Schwarze Korps, the official organ of the S.S. in 1935, when
he was head of the S.S. security. In an article entitled "The invisible
enemy", he made a distinction between two kinds of Jews :
"We must separate the Jews into two categories, the Zionists and the
partisans of assimilation. The Zionists profess a strictly racial concept
and, through emigration to Palestine, they help to build their own Jewish
State...our good wishes and our official goodwill go with them."
Source : Hohne. "Order of the Death's Head", p.333.
"The German Betar received a new name: Herzlia. The activities of the
movement in Germany had to obtain, of course, the approval of the Gestapo;
in fact, Herzlia acted under the protection of the Gestapo. One day, a
group of SS attacked a Betar summer camp. The head of the movement then
complained to the Gestapo and, a few days later, the secret police
declared that the SS in question had been punished. The Gestapo asked the
Betar what compensation would seem most adequate. The movement asked that
the recent prohibition that had struck them, forbidding them to wear brown
shirts, be lifted; their request was granted."
Source : Ben-Yeruham, "Le livre de Betar" T.II, p. 350.
By
Anonymous, at
Sat Apr 08, 02:48:00 AM GMT+3
Really, I am not so upset with the land issue as others on this blog and forum seem to be. To me, there are so many greater pressing issues to the Jewish fold and Jewish people that Hashem will likely judge us on, than the land of Judea-Samaria. What good is this land when hundreds of thousands of Jews are living in dire poverty and good to bed hungry at night or when the Government chooses to not subsidize life-saving medications, by spending an extra NIS 100 million like the Health Committee Recommended ten days ago. Really, these realities are and will likely be the major downfall of us as a society and of us as a people and nation. The Second Temple was destroyed partially for how we treated our fellow Jews. To me, it is disgusting to see the growing poverty and homelessness of aged and young and even middle aged. What's even worse is when people walk past these individuals begging in the streets and do not lift a finger to assist them. So, again, all this talk about the land may make some of you feel you are assisting Kol Israel, when reality hundreds of thousands of your brethern are starving and dying and are suffering here in Israel. They should come first, human life and dignity should come FIRST!! Not the land. Failure to realize this is the failure to be a true Jew in my opinion.
By
Anonymous, at
Mon Apr 10, 03:19:00 PM GMT+3
Zionist, I agree with you, but why must the two values be mutally exclusive?
The expulsion of Jews from Gaza andthe Shomron this past summer cost the State of Israel 10 Billion NIS! It's amazing, that when the government is interested in something, theyfind the money for it.
The security fence / border being built is costing the country hundreds of millions of $$$. Can you imagine if the money that was spent on the expulsion, or that is being spent o nthe security fernce were to instead have been invested on Israel society and helping the needy how different this country would be.
It is in the interest of those in power to scapegoat the Jewish communities of Judea and Samaria for the ills of Israeli society - but the fact is, is that its just a cover for their inability as leaders to get the job done.
By
Ze'ev, at
Mon Apr 10, 03:39:00 PM GMT+3
Zionist, the Mitzvah of Tzedaka isnt a mitzvah for which you must be Mesiras Nefesh Yishuv/Kibush Eretz Yisrael is.
By
Anonymous, at
Tue Apr 11, 05:00:00 AM GMT+3
Kahane:
It is more than Tzedaka that I am concerned with, it also, I would argue goes to the very heart and soul of the Jewish nation and communual soul. The Jewish nation has been destroyed and exiled for far less.
Ze'ev: As part of my overall meaning in what I said earlier, I included, implicitly, the way the Jews of Gaza have been treated by the government and the Israeli society. I was not against leaving Gaza but was adamently appalled by the way the Government and Jewish society have dealth with their housing and living and working conditions since the expulsion.
I am unsure if they need to be mutually exclusive, but to me, most of the religious energies is spent saving land, when thousands are literally going to bed hungry at night here. You asked my vision of a Jewish society in a different thread, and I am afraid, my vision is granted, idealist, but it would be based on a society where the jews of the nation would see someone without work, they would take him in and train him, or see someone homless, they would create a shelter and job opportunities or address the mental illness underlying the homelessness, or if the state or invidiual jew sees someone begginning, they would talk with the person and not just walk by and pretend they do not exist, as if they are subhuman. I am afraid, it is sad that we are by far NOT a becon or light of the world as we are meant to be as our own Jewish nation and internal society is sick and corrupted whereas, other goyim nations do a far better job on helping their poor and sick of society (see Scandanavia or Australia or France, or Canada). Personally, this is the society I would like to see, and the modern State of Israel is far from this. I think I heard a sheer once that a Jew has an obligation to leave a society that is sick or corrupted, and I think Israel is pretty close to this. I think America is already there.
By
Anonymous, at
Tue Apr 11, 03:29:00 PM GMT+3
Zionist, I am also an idealist, and I agree with the vision you laid out. I do not beleive that Eretz yisrael haShelaima is the goal, rather a means to a greater end. The mission of the Jewish people, living in the Land of Israel is to create a "chevra l'mofet" that will serve as an "or lagoyim" and thus help towards being "l'taken olam b'malchut Shaddai".
It is unacceptable, as you say that there are so many poor and under priveleged members of sociey in th Jewish State. Yet, i do not believe that the cause of this is the "settlements", and even if we were to pull out of every last one, these problems would still exist, b/c those leading the country do not care about the weak and disadvantaged - they care about themselves and their own interests - and that can only change when a new generation of leaders take their place.
I beleive that the Jewish State can be a moral and just soiety, as we are meant to be (and as set out for us in the Torah) - but it will take a lot of work, and there don't seem to be enough people comitted to the task - or in postions where they can bring the dream to reality...
By
Ze'ev, at
Tue Apr 11, 10:01:00 PM GMT+3
Ze'ev, settling Eretz Yisrael is a goal in and of itself in that it is a Mitzvah yes we are also supposed to create a just society. But they arent really connected each are Mitzvot which must be fufilled. But as i said before one Yishuv Haaretz overrides danger to life following the opinion of the Ramban Sefer HaMitzvos Mitvah number four. But tzedakah and supporting the poor is in a lesser category since no one holds you must sactrifice your own life to give Tzedaka that is why Yishuv Haaretz takes precedence and why it is completely issur under any circumstances to give up any part of Eretz Yisrael. The Chazon Ish felt so strongly about this that he wrote if a Jew is even suspected of selling (not surrendering to our enemies) any part of Eretz Yisrael they are to be put in Cherem.
By
Anonymous, at
Wed Apr 12, 01:19:00 AM GMT+3
KL, I am not denying that settling Eretz Yisrael is a Mitzvah. The point I am making is that the reason that we are in Eretz Yisrael is b/c it is the one place in the world where the Jewish People can fulfill the Torah as it is meant to be kept, and in doing so, create a society that will serve as a light unto the nations and sanctify G-d's name throughout the world. As such, Eretz Yisrael is a means to a greater end which can't be achieved anywhere else i nthe world.
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Ze'ev, at
Fri Apr 14, 08:27:00 AM GMT+3
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